Comments on: Doctor Who 4.12: “The Stolen Earth” Summary and Analysis SPOILERS http://randomremarks.com/2008/06/doctor-who-412-the-stolen-earth-summary-and-analysis-spoilers/ Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:48:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mark http://randomremarks.com/2008/06/doctor-who-412-the-stolen-earth-summary-and-analysis-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Mark Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:14:35 +0000 http://randomremarks.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-44 >>Davros was clearly expecting the return of the Doctor,so maybe he factored that into his plan by deliberately drawing him in. Maybe it's the Doctor who has planned this all along. The Shadow Proclamation is an anagram of "Doctor Who has a time plan" :) >>Davros was clearly expecting the return of the Doctor,so maybe he factored that into his plan by deliberately drawing him in.

Maybe it’s the Doctor who has planned this all along. The Shadow Proclamation is an anagram of “Doctor Who has a time plan” :)

]]> By: Charles http://randomremarks.com/2008/06/doctor-who-412-the-stolen-earth-summary-and-analysis-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Charles Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:17:43 +0000 http://randomremarks.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-43 I personally will be very dissapointed if Harriet Jones volountarily had anything to do with the Daleks, I would not be surprised if it was revealed she is more than she appears to be as her constant flashing of her ID reminded me of the Doctors constant flashing of his Psychic paper when he wants to "prove" who he is and while her ID is twice the size of the Doctors Psychic Paper, there is nothing to say that all Psychic paper is the same size. When I rechecked the scene where she flashes her ID it appears to be on a white sheet of paper not two separate pieces of ID. I personally will be very dissapointed if Harriet Jones volountarily had anything to do with the Daleks, I would not be surprised if it was revealed she is more than she appears to be as her constant flashing of her ID reminded me of the Doctors constant flashing of his Psychic paper when he wants to “prove” who he is and while her ID is twice the size of the Doctors Psychic Paper, there is nothing to say that all Psychic paper is the same size. When I rechecked the scene where she flashes her ID it appears to be on a white sheet of paper not two separate pieces of ID.

]]> By: Nick Payne http://randomremarks.com/2008/06/doctor-who-412-the-stolen-earth-summary-and-analysis-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Nick Payne Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:21:58 +0000 http://randomremarks.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-47 Caan could also have simply been referring to himself in relation to Davros. After all, he did travel into a timelocked period to rescue Davros... at the cost of his own sanity. People are probably assuming Osterhagen is a self destruct button because it is an anagram of "Earth's Gone". However that may just be a circular reference to the title & plot in general. There was some speculation a while back that Harriet Jones had some connection to the Supreme Dalek. Though that sounds a bit extreme, one thing that intrigued me upon rewatching... was how passionately opposed she was to the use of the Osterhagen Key. There was something going on there. She may not even have been exterminated. She knew she was being watched on monitors, it could have been an act. Davros was clearly expecting the return of the Doctor,so maybe he factored that into his plan by deliberately drawing him in. Harriet Jones was unrepentant of her actions, is it possible she has become involved with the Daleks in a bid to get revenge? I can't help thinking that the Supreme Dalek's paint job is some kind of obscure hint as to who or what is on the interior. Caan could also have simply been referring to himself in relation to Davros. After all, he did travel into a timelocked period to rescue Davros… at the cost of his own sanity.

People are probably assuming Osterhagen is a self destruct button because it is an anagram of “Earth’s Gone”. However that may just be a circular reference to the title & plot in general.

There was some speculation a while back that Harriet Jones had some connection to the Supreme Dalek.

Though that sounds a bit extreme, one thing that intrigued me upon rewatching… was how passionately opposed she was to the use of the Osterhagen Key. There was something going on there. She may not even have been exterminated. She knew she was being watched on monitors, it could have been an act.

Davros was clearly expecting the return of the Doctor,so maybe he factored that into his plan by deliberately drawing him in. Harriet Jones was unrepentant of her actions, is it possible she has become involved with the Daleks in a bid to get revenge?

I can’t help thinking that the Supreme Dalek’s paint job is some kind of obscure hint as to who or what is on the interior.

]]> By: Charles http://randomremarks.com/2008/06/doctor-who-412-the-stolen-earth-summary-and-analysis-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Charles Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:48:19 +0000 http://randomremarks.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-45 Unfortunately RTD is a fan of Deus Ex Machina, he used it in Parting of the ways and Last of the Timelords. The key Martha was given will probably play a role at some point if not in this episode perhaps in one of the specials, while some people think it is an "Earth Self Destruct button" I doubt that is the case if it could possible bring salvation to the human race. I have seen some of the theories about there possible being 2 Doctors or a botched regeneration of some sort and would not be surprised if that did occur. The hand has to play a part in some way either in ensuring that he stays in his current form or creating another Doctor. Unless they have been very good with "foilers" then pictures from scenes we have not yet seen show that Tennant remains as the doctor for a while yet. Another thought I had about the most faithful companion is that they could pull an even bigger swerve and have it be "Lucy Saxon" as the Master did describe her as "my faithful companion" Dalek Caan just said that the most faithful companion would die, not that it was the Doctors most faithful companion Unfortunately RTD is a fan of Deus Ex Machina, he used it in Parting of the ways and Last of the Timelords.

The key Martha was given will probably play a role at some point if not in this episode perhaps in one of the specials, while some people think it is an “Earth Self Destruct button” I doubt that is the case if it could possible bring salvation to the human race.

I have seen some of the theories about there possible being 2 Doctors or a botched regeneration of some sort and would not be surprised if that did occur. The hand has to play a part in some way either in ensuring that he stays in his current form or creating another Doctor. Unless they have been very good with “foilers” then pictures from scenes we have not yet seen show that Tennant remains as the doctor for a while yet.

Another thought I had about the most faithful companion is that they could pull an even bigger swerve and have it be “Lucy Saxon” as the Master did describe her as “my faithful companion” Dalek Caan just said that the most faithful companion would die, not that it was the Doctors most faithful companion

]]> By: Nick Payne http://randomremarks.com/2008/06/doctor-who-412-the-stolen-earth-summary-and-analysis-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Nick Payne Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:20:28 +0000 http://randomremarks.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-46 I like your thinking with regard to the TARDIS being the Doctor's most faithful companion. Have you seen some of the theories that are out there with regard to the regeneration being botched... and there being a replication of the 10th Doctor alongside the 11th due tot he hand. Seems a bit strange to me but we shall see. Do you think the Harthagen key is misdirection as well? I'm a little worried it might be used as a Deus Ex Machina. Regards N I like your thinking with regard to the TARDIS being the Doctor’s most faithful companion. Have you seen some of the theories that are out there with regard to the regeneration being botched… and there being a replication of the 10th Doctor alongside the 11th due tot he hand. Seems a bit strange to me but we shall see.

Do you think the Harthagen key is misdirection as well? I’m a little worried it might be used as a Deus Ex Machina.

Regards

N

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